LCS NA Summer Split 2016

Yaya

Cosas, cosas.

Entrevista de Pobelter con Travis después del partido con NRG. Está mas contento con la evolución de IMT este split.

Dardoch hablando sobre su situación con Piglet y Locodoco:

Articulo de ESPN sobre TSM y su nuevo equipo:

A short month ago, Team SoloMid were a team missing its final piece. Legendary European support Bora "YellOwStaR" Kim failed to stick with the team after a single volatile split, and the back-to-back runners-up to the North American League Championship Series title were searching for a support to push the team over the hump from silver medalists to being the kings of North America.

During the team's offseason bootcamp in South Korea, the selection seemingly came down to two standout prospects. The first, Lee "IgNar" Dong-geun, would be everything you wanted out of a mechanically gifted player -- young, highly touted coming out of Incredible Miracle and KT Rolster, and once considered the next coming of All-Star South Korean support Hong "MadLife" Min-gi, IgNar seemed like the easy choice on paper. For TSM to have a chance of overcoming rival Counter Logic Gaming or even have a prayer against the likes of the SK Telecom T1 dynasty with Lee "Faker" Sang-hyeok, it needed the best starting five of all time, right? If IgNar worked out, he could be a younger Ham "Lustboy" Jang-sik, possibly with better upside.

Behind the murmurs of TSM IgNar, there was Vincent "Biofrost" Wang, an amateur player brought along by SoloMid to try out in South Korea while they bootcamped. Biofrost was an interesting prospect and said to have gelled well with star AD carry Yiliang "Doublelift" Peng, but his history reads like that of someone who was destined to be eternally stuck in the horrors of the North American minor league circuit: Team Frostbite, Final Five, Vortex, Dream Team. All teams that have never been in the NA LCS, and Biofrost had failed to make the jump in over a year of playing in the Challenger circuit.

I would have chosen IgNar.

TSM chose Biofrost, and after two weeks of matchplay, it looks like that choice might have been the best decision the club has made. Or at least its best decision since signing a lanky Dane from EU LCS' Ninjas in Pyjamas named Søren "Bjergsen" Bjerg to take over for founder and then-mid lane starter Andy "Reginald" Dinh. The former three-time champions of the league are undefeated in match score at 4-0, and the team has only dropped one game the entire split, that being to last season's regular-season champions, Immortals.

The best word to describe Biofrost's first nine game games as a rookie would be businesslike. He isn't necessarily the most expressive player, or even the flashiest when it comes to his in-game plays, but the way he goes about the game is like a veteran of five or six years. On a team with legitimate superstars in the professional world, Biofrost plays like he would on a team like Frostbite or Vortex. He hasn't looked intimated in the slightest, and his play alongside Doublelift in-lane has put TSM atop of the board when it comes to teams in laning prowess.

Biofrost's highlight play from the first two weeks was also his most recent. In the only close series TSM has played this split, against Immortals, he was calm as could be in the waning minutes of the game. Eugene "Pobelter" Park was the strongest player on the map on his Viktor and had just rolled over TSM to win a Baron for his team. The Immortals were pressing to end SoloMid's winning streak and take possession of first in the league. A catch in the enemy jungle not too long after led to a moment where TSM and Biofrost had a chance to take Viktor off the map and win the game. Like it was another normal game with his friends on a Friday night in Canada, Biofrost plopped around on Bard before throwing a game-changing ultimate that caught three players, including the all-important Viktor. Bjergsen and the rest of the team were able to lock down the Viktor, delete him from the map, and what was going to be TSM's first loss of the season turned into Biofrost's marquee pro-gaming highlight up to this short point in his career.

"When you take off your headset and the TSM chants come ringing through, those 10 seconds after you win feel extraordinary," Biofrost tweeted following the win over Immortals. On the most prestigious club in North America with fanatical fans that, for the good and for the bad, take note of every little play the starters make, the Canadian rookie hasn't flinched. When he's made a mistake, it hasn't affected him or his team's overall play, and maybe most importantly, he hasn't tried to do too much. Some rookies, or even some veterans, will make a mistake or get a small lead and then try to overcompensate.

"Oh man, I made a mistake, I need to do a flash stun to get back into this," some think.

"Sweet, we got a double kill. Let's waste all our summoner spells to try and blow up the lead even more," others have run through their minds.

Doublelift and Biofrost have been in sync and an ironwall in their first four matches together. The third game against Immortals could have gotten out of hand and led to a match loss, yet Doublelift pulled out a triple kill alongside the Rift Herald pit to get his team back in the game. From Dennis "Svenskeren" Johnsen to Doublelift in the bottom lane, the team is finally starting to gain the comfort level needed to become a top team in today's pro scene. Svenskeren is trusting Bjergsen, Doublelift is trusting Svenskeren, and Bjergsen is trusting Doublelift, and it's resulted in a team that almost fell out of the playoffs last season now topping the tables with an ample amount of momentum behind them.

IgNar, yes, might be the better player. The talented South Korean prospect moved over to Misfits in the European Challenger series, and there is a good chance he'll see time in one of the main leagues next year, either by promotion or a major league team signing him. The problem with IgNar is that, besides having communication issues, he's garnered a bit of a reputation for being hard to work with. He was primed to be KT's new starting support at the start of the 2016 season, however, he was quickly replaced by veteran Ha "Hachani" Seung-chan and never saw much playing time.

TSM has come to the realization many are coming to: League of Legends is about teamwork, communication, and just plain trust more than ever. We can sit here and put together the greatest roster on paper to play in the NA LCS, but it isn't going to mean much if they don't mesh as a collective unit. We've left the days where an almighty one-on-one expert can snowball the game off his back continuously and win matches through sheer individual brilliance. To become a championship team, one worthy to contend at Worlds, you need to have all five players on the same page and functioning as a true team, not just in definition only.

A few people will look at SK Telecom T1's success in South Korea and attribute all the success to Faker's genius. And yes, while it's true Faker is the greatest in the game's history and the best player on the planet, not even he could carry a team by his lonesome if his teammates around him didn't trust in him. There is a better chance currently of seeing Faker support his teammates in battle than the other way around. The 2013 version of Faker zipping around the map and solo killing everyone is still there, yet that's not what he needs to do to win. Instead, he'll play Karma, Lulu, or anything the team requires him to do to win, and that's why the slugging SKT T1 at the start of the year has picked up steam gradually as the year has gone along. By the midpoint in the year, T1 has found the right mixture to play with, and the new elements on the team in the top lane and jungle have assimilated to the group.

Biofrost has been great, but it's not only because of him. It's because of Doublelift. It's because of Parth "Parthenaan" Naidu, his head coach. It's because of his other teammates, the team's analysts, and Reginald as well in the owner role. To become a great team in this day and age, it all comes from the top down and trickles into the team playing on the field.

Kevin "Hauntzer" Yarnell is playing like the best top laner in the west currently, and that didn't just happen overnight. He had a natural progression. A promising youngster on the Gravity, which made the postseason and faltered in the first round. In his second year, now signed on TSM, he was more well-rounded, but still made mistakes from time to time and was experiencing the same issues as the rest of the team when it came to relying on each other. When the finals against CLG came in Las Vegas, he was progressing to the stage where he is today -- confident, trusting in his teammates, knowing the tendencies of his jungler, and having the right feel for teleports, flanks, and when to simply go in on the offensive in-lane.

TSM isn't unstoppable. The team isn't perfect. There will be times this season where things aren't all rainbows and kudos, and that's when we'll learn how far this team can really go come the August domestic finals and possible World Championships.

That's okay, though. No team is perfect. No team can win forever. What you can do is build a team you know can persevere in the face of adversity. A group of players that -- when the chips are down and their backs are firmly pressed against the wall -- can turn to each other, look each other in the eyes, and understand what to do without saying a single word.

A team, now more than ever, always trumps an individual. And this iteration of Team SoloMid could be one of those teams.

J

#150 estan en twitch? pasa link

ya lo encontre

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isf90

#152 ahora esta alex ich solo creo

Rito_Tryhard

alguien me hace un resumen de lo de dardoch? estoy con el movil

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isf90

#154 mogollon de palabras en ingles, eso he entendido xd

yo tambien quiero un resumen por favor :psyduck:

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J

Al principio habla sobre la partida. Sobre el pick de elise, que el enemigo no tenia una champion pull mas alla de khazix gragas y reksai y como reksai estaba baneada cogio elise, tambien hablan algo de rengar que no entendi muy bien. Luego le pregunta sobre la suspension en tl y dijo que el tiene una vision bastante diferente de como es el juego de como piglet y locodoco lo ven. Dice que todavia es joven y no tenia las cosas claras, que ahora al volver al equipo ve las cosas desde otro punto de vista. Y luego habla sobre moon y mas cosas pero nada de salseo
No se si lo he entendido bien, porque la verdad entre que hablan ingles americano y lo friki que es me cuesta :s

N

zentinel deja p1 xd

Yaya

Y NRG se ha cargado a sus Coach, y se ha traido a KoreanEdelweiss y Hermes.

Zeta95

Esto es de coña vamos, quitar al que mejor estaba jugando, RIP TL

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privet

a ese le quitan draven y se quedara en nada xD

esos de los subs jamas les entendere, si el chaval esta enfermo y tal pues bueno.. pero por que si? wtf.. estara cansado de darle al raton

iomegakek

#159 puto locodoco, me está matando.

Yaya

A ver si Dardoch se está imponiendo a los Coreanos o algo.

crazygrumpy

#159 Piglet tiene que estar muy contento. El Faby este que tal es? Me suena que no es la gran cosa, aunque puede que lo este confundiendo con otro...

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B

Bueno, si leéis el Twitter de Piglet sabréis la razón. El chaval está hecho mierda porque por lo visto en el reddit coreano hace un par de días han empezado a decir mentiras sobre él y lo han puesto de vuelta y media, el que conozca a Piglet sabrá que no sabe controlar muy bien sus emociones.

Discharge

#163 the gatekeeper

Muitos

Liquid hace cosas muy raras pero tiene que haber una liada internamente que tiene que ser insoportable jugar ahi. Dardoch-Locodoco-Piglet, vaya tres...

Trisk3l

Hay dos opciones, o Piglet se larga pero a la voz de ya o pasa lo que pasó con Dardoch y en una semana está jugando de nuevo, si el motivo es lo de Dardoch. Si el motivo es que están metiéndole mierda en Corea pues habrá que ver, pero imagino que aún así Loco y Steve le suplicarán que se olvide y juegue. Porque o Faby te sale como te salió Dardoch o la falta de tu carry se va a notar una auténtica exageración

Yaya

Hay lio con Biofrost y Dream Team, su antiguo equipo, parece que aún le deben dinero:

El Twitlonger de Regi:

Biofrost signed an LOI for 2,000 per month with the expectation of being exclusive to Dream Team. He was only paid 2,000 for the month of February and his payment was late. Biofrost continued to be exclusive and practice with Dream team for several hours a day for two additional months without payment. Dream Team played 3 official matches with Bio and they are trying to play it off as if those matches were the end Bio’s service (https://gyazo.com/568d35baffa660c950a31cc28cb3bea9) even though in his initial LOI he was supposed to be paid monthly. (https://gyazo.com/ccc72fff4d2440a6c3dd224d0d88c89d) To clarify, Bio continued to scrim with them with the intention of playing with them in Challenger next season. (for 2 months, which he did not get paid for)

Because of non-payment for several months, he proceeded to look for other options and applied to TSM.

(From our side, we did not approach him to schedule a tryout until Parth confirmed with Riot.)

As soon as Dream Team found out about our interest, Dream Team immediately reported us to Riot and threatened to take legal action (https://gyazo.com/1fb31cdb546e7bdb0e464e548a5e0a69) with the intent of being under a valid contract. Riot did not view this as poaching or tampering because of non-payment and because this contract is also not valid.

Dream Team is clearly taking advantage of players that are extremely young without any legal experience. They proceeded to threaten us and then gave up because they had no grounds for a lawsuit.

Dream Team tried to pressure Bio into staying through legal action even when Biofrost was not being paid or under a valid agreement.

It clearly shows that Dream Team had the intent and belief that their contract was valid by calling us out publicly and also reporting us to Riot for poaching.

What's important here is that Biofrost performed services for DT and was not paid regardless if their agreement was valid or not. Dream Team is taking advantage of young players without any experience. They are also not counter-signing agreements on purpose with the intent to get out of payment.

TLDR:
Bio signed LOI to play for a $2,000/month salary
Bio played with DT for 3 months
DT only paid Bio for 1 month
DT accused us of poaching and threatened to sue.
Riot investigated and realized Bio did not receive payments and OK-ed for us to talk to him.
DT is misleading the community by only providing proof of ONE payment.

Because DT refused to pay Bio for the remaining 2 months of services, I went public in order to make sure that they do not do this to other players. I also want to raise awareness for all the players that are being taken advantage of. If your team is not paying you, I urge you to go public after you’ve tried to resolve it privately. The truth is, players that are not being paid have tried to get payments privately. However, if that is not successful, they cannot afford the thousands of dollars of lawyer fees to FORCE action. (My lawyer costs $400 per hour. It’s not fair for me or Bio to pay $8,000 in lawyer fees to get Bio’s $4,000.) Players end up giving up and they usually do not receive the payment from shady organizations. This is going to continue being a problem in eSports unless players stand up for themselves. (See TIP-- players that played for months without payment.)

Y la respuesta de Dream Team:

Here to clear up statements being made by Reginald, usually I'd sit quiet on stuff like this nowadays, but it's absolutely absurd that accusations like such are being thrown our way.

Vincent (Biofrost) was part of AKA pre-NACS. We got permission from AKA to allow Vincent as a substitute in the NACS. After some weeks of attempting communication, AKA owner did not respond to any of our requests concerning Vincent's buyout, as Vincent also received no pay from AKA during this time. He played a total of 3 competitive matches for us and was compensated $2,000, in which the month afterwards we had a banking issue which delayed payments. Vincent signed an LOI on 2/11 stating that he would be committed to Dream Team and not engage in additional opportunities. Why would a player "being mistreated" offer to continue to play with us in the Open Qualifier match if TSM did not work out?

These are conversations taken on the same day:
http://i.imgur.com/2Icz59l.png
http://i.imgur.com/TxAgzO5.png

The reason Biofrost is not owed any money is due to the reasoning that he terminated his agreement with Dream Team in order to leave for Korea and tryout for TSM. Vincent's LOI states that he agrees to not engage in additional opportunities. Vincent decided to terminate his initial agreement and not sign into a formal contract, which was sent to him on 4/25 (two days after being released from his contract with AKA). Since Vincent chose to not accept payment or sign additional documentation (our contract), he used that to clear any obligations with DT and instead terminated his agreement, as such Vincent is not owed any money due to leaving for TSM tryouts. Had he accepted money (which he decided not to by terminating his agreement with us) he would have been bound to his LOI.

Vincent cleared himself of obligations by not accepting our contractual offer and not accepting payment as per the LOI. It's even explained in his TSM press release that he has resolved obligations with Dream Team. C'mon now..
http://tsm.gg/index.php/news/tsm-support-update/
http://i.imgur.com/hEUkIlC.jpg

tl;dr - Vincent decided to void his agreement due to banking delay and join TSM instead of accepting payment and continuing on with his agreement. Vincent did not sign a contract with Dream Team due to him wanting to clear obligations with Dream Team, that includes not accepting further LOI payments, and as such he was able to terminate.

Since leaving for TSM (and before then), Biofrost (as well as TSM management) has not contacted Dream Team nor anyone on our staff for payment. Reginald has lied and fabricated details in order to further his personal agenda.

Further:
2/11 Vincent signs LOI
3/15 Vincent is paid 1 month salary
4/23 Vincent engages with TSM and confirms that he received his LOI payment.
http://i.imgur.com/CD5M3Gr.png
4/25 Two days after being released by AKA, we sent Vincent his contract via DocuSign to further his engagement with Dream Team but was not signed by Vincent.
http://i.imgur.com/TstWcRk.png
4/30 Vincent decides to terminate his LOI to try-out for TSM instead of accepting payment
http://i.imgur.com/7zkkrUA.png
5/25 Riot confirming we paid Vincent what he is owed.
http://i.imgur.com/xl9rB46.jpg

We want to reiterate TSM management (as well as Biofrost) DID NOT reach out to us in regards to any other payments. Reginald is using his brand to bully us and we will not allow it. He is misconstruing facts and manipulating statements. We are not going to stand for this and will take legal action.

En el Twitter de Regi se han liado a citas con DT, por si quereis leerlo.

B

Lo de ese tweet de Reginlad es... en fin

Espero que todo se aclare y Biofrost cobre lo que se le debe

Yaya

Si, que Regi lo haya puesto público era completamente innecesario y esta fatal. A ver si le meten una multa o algo por eso.

Pero si a Bio le deben dinero, que actuen también, que esto no puede ser.

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MT_Dulper

Joder con la temporada de TSM, ahora pueden ganar a equipos desde el twitter

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Singed

Regi siempre hace eso cuando le tocan los cojones en plan amenazas y ya "habían llegado a un acuerdo". Ahora les va a tirar a Rito encima.
Vosotros también lo haríais si os viene un pavo intentando chantagearos con poaching del palo.

Rito_Tryhard

Como dice singed, regi hace esto solo cuando le tocan los cojones a full

Singed

Y la más importante y que debería ser así y más tras lo que dijo el pavo aquel de que hay orgs que han decidido no pagar.

Trisk3l

#170 De hecho me sorprende ser más pro-TSM que tú en esto, pero creo que lo de Regi no está mal hecho. Creo que si no lo hace publicamente, DT puede trampear (si lo está haciendo, que eso habrá de probarse pero entre los dos statements tiendo a darle la razón por pruebas y argumentos a Regi, que se suele preparar estas cosas antes de sacarlas a la luz) a otros jugadores más fácil y creo que de cara a publicidad es un buen movimiento ya que da una imagen de que TSM se preocupa de que sus jugadores reciban lo que merecen, aunque sea antes de haber estado en el equipo, como en este caso. De hecho, yo le he ganado simpatía al tito Regi con esto, la verdad

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Yaya

#175 Si que Regi lo denuncie me parece bien, pero hacerlo en publico no. Es algo que IMO se tiene que tratar de forma privada.

Y que visto lo que ponen cada uno, Regi tiene pinta de tener razon, pero una cosa no quita la otra.

domi8410

Fabbbyyy The Challenguer Gatekeeper. Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet's go.

Singed

Ahahahahaha me muero con Big y Cop se acojona con la cámara delante. Que crack el Julio xDDD

Yaya

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Yaya

:qq: :qq: :qq: :qq: No puede terminar el split ya? Joder que bien todo.

TSM sigue a lo suyo, y ya se ha sacado de encima a todos los de arriba menos Envy, que por otro lado a la que se ha encontrado a equipos mas competitivos ya se le han visto mas las carencias, incluso cuando uno de estos eran CLG, que siguen en la mierda mas absoluta.

Liquid sorprendentemente mejor de lo esperado con Fabbyyyyyy, y la pelea por el peor equipo de la LCS entre FOX y P1 va a estar reñida.