SouLeer acusado de estafador en sus clases de coaching de SC2

MrAw3s0m3

Hoy ha salido en reddit el post del usuario u/hellcatblack13 el cual cuenta la historia de como pagó por los servicios de coaching de Souleer y éste estuvo posponiendolo ad infinitum hasta que el usuario solicitó una devolución del dinero y Souleer desapareció misteriosamente:

Update: by suggestions of many other players I've contacted KJ Scuderia (team owner) on Facebook. let's see how it goes...

I wanna share my experience of being coached by SouLeer. It might a good warning for many others...

In the very beginning, I was thinking that I'll give him feedback no matter what. I was thinking about positive feedback. How little did I know...

I've seen this post from SouLeer, a promo - original post. Shortly, the deal is:

You pay 225 euros.

For this price, you receive:

20 hours of coaching + builds and useful materials + questions and support in general.

I've been playing StarCraft for years and I'm dead stuck in the diamond league as a Zerg and just started trying my skills as a Terran. So I thought - why not? If I'm spending so much time in-game maybe I can spend some money to finally get better at the game.

I've contacted Victor (no doxing - all the info is open on liqupedia) the first impression was quite nice - the smart intelligent guy who offers a good service. We had the first 20 min call where we discussed the time slot for the sessions and the payment method.

One thing that was a little bit sus... He was extremely pushy to get all the money ahead. I'm used to paying per hour for such kind of service or at least not the whole price ahead. We agreed that I'll pay 100 upfront and the rest of the money next week (it saved me 125 euros as you already might guess).

So I did. PayPal confirmation:

r/starcraft - StarCraft coaching or how I got scammed by sc2 pro player SouLeer

We agreed that I'll send replays and we had one initial session where I was basically streaming how I play. And it was so cool! I thought wow! I have a real chance to get knowledge from a pro gamer!

And then It begin... omg... what a shit show it was...

We scheduled the next session and:

r/starcraft - StarCraft coaching or how I got scammed by sc2 pro player SouLeer

I was upset but it happens right?

And next time:

r/starcraft - StarCraft coaching or how I got scammed by sc2 pro player SouLeer

And after that:

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And more:

r/starcraft - StarCraft coaching or how I got scammed by sc2 pro player SouLeer

You got the pattern, right?

Once we almost had it!

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Preparation... and then:

r/starcraft - StarCraft coaching or how I got scammed by sc2 pro player SouLeer

Finally, after many canceled sessions (It wasn't cancellation it was mostly me sitting and waiting like an idiot), I pulled have arguments:

r/starcraft - StarCraft coaching or how I got scammed by sc2 pro player SouLeer

He politely replied that it won't happen again... and of course he lied.

The day before he asked - if can help him with fixing his microphone (wtf?) and as you already guessed next session was canceled again. In general, it wasn't cancelation it was just me sitting like an idiot waiting for him.

To not feed you all the screenshots from discord (I'll provide them on-demand in no time if needed)

To summarize from 08/10/2021 to 09/19/2021 nine! 9! times he didn't show up due to multiple reasons, such as:

  • Bad weather in Spain (wtf!?)

  • Just ignoring me completely

  • Family reasons

  • Broken microphone (with a stupid shit show of him sitting silently and trying to "fix" it)

You might ask - but how many sessions did you have successfully? ONE! only One freaking session he did show up in time (except the initial call of course).

For me, it was extremely disappointing. I'm not 17... I had to constantly change my plans, my family wasn't counting on me either during that time - because I was spending my evenings sitting and waiting for sc2 star.

Eventually, I asked for a refund - he politely agreed and asked me to wait for a week. Week after he asked to wait one more week... and then one more... and it's been already a few months and of course I'm not gonna get anything back.

In a summary, I lost over 10 hours of my time, 105 euros, and the mood to play starcraft in the near 10 years.

I wanna warn everyone who considers contacting SouLeer for couching - pay only per hour or better don't contact him at all!

As proof, I can provide a receipt from PayPal and whole message history from Discord if someone needs it.

Sorry for my English, I guess my final lesson from Victor is this essay that I wrote.

Thank you all who managed to read the whole thing.

TLTR:

Paid for sc2 couching 105 euros to SouLeer. He ditched me 9-10 times with stupid reasons or without reason (wasting my time over a month). After I asked for a refund he agreed to give me my money back and disappeared.

Hilo de reddit:

Hilo donde SouLeer se anuncia como coach:

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sephirox

Vaya tela macho.

A ver si da explicaciones, pero viendo las conversaciones...

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CaRtEr0

@SouleerSc

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MrAw3s0m3

#2 #3 De momento le han contactado por twitter, que supongo que se conectara mas a menudo que al foro xd

Huk

en original te ponías en kor-1 y te daban clases gratis bro despierta

MrAw3s0m3

Expulsado de PSISTORM Gaming:

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SpiuK

Souler era el primo de Majestic? Ya no me acuerdo

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MrAw3s0m3

#7 Correcto.

fkdlzh

buena manera de joderte el futuro online por unas migajas, xk 225 euros por 20 horas de coaching+escuchar tabarra es sueldo de asistenta de hogar

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intelntl

Por lo menos que devuelva el dinero. No es tan dificil. Ni siquiera es dinero....

Ismelldrama

Vaya puto gitano xddd

MrAw3s0m3

#9 han comentado varios users en el hilo de reddit que a ellos les hizo lo mismo, así que parece ser que ha podido estafar a varias personas. Además iba por todos los canales de discord hablando por privado a todos los usuarios ofertandose, realmente no sabemos el alcance de dinero que ha podido llegar a estafar.

rentoN1

No se si los datos que hay de el por internet y su foto son reales, porque como lo sean premio darwin

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MrAw3s0m3

#13 si, es un "progamer" español, tiene nombre y apellidos y fotos en su twitter, cual es la duda?

rentoN1

Pues que tiene todas las papeletas para que le partan la cara

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MrAw3s0m3

#15 si, va a ir @Drakea a Valencia a pegarle una paliza :rofl:

Simplemente ha acabado con su (casi inexistente) carrera de progamer porque ningún equipo va a querer tenerle.

La putada es que la gente que no esté al día no se enterarán de esta estafa y algún primo más seguirá cayendo.

Huk

En net kombat este hubiera estado farmeando sojs con el bot del cobra y gracias

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MrAw3s0m3

#17 m-me he enterado de todo g-gracias.

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Huk

#18 quien eres?

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MrAw3s0m3

#19 una copia barata de @Drakea, el verdadero mod en las sombras, el mesias, y a quien le debes pleitesía.

Si no lo haces no habrá una buena riada en el Nilo y los cultivos de esta temporada se irán a la puñeta.

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Tritoman

#7 Ostia xD mira @M-bateman

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PhDfailer

joder, 225€ por 20h de clases... con todo el curro que ello conlleva, normal que fuese una estafa

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MrAw3s0m3

#22 exacto, eso era la estafa, no el no aparecer tras pagar :sisi3:

sephirox

#21 Cuéntame, bandido xd.

CaRtEr0
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sephirox

#25 Vaya tela macho, pufff xd. Sin pena que da la "scene" del Sc2 español.

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MrAw3s0m3

#26 joder, me pongo serio:

Aunque lo digan en broma (que no lo sé ni yo) hay alguna forma de pararlo?? Porque la gente internacional no van a saber si lo dicen de broma o no...vamos, no sé a mí me han troleado hasta el fondo porque estoy casi temblando pensando que lo dicen en serio y que quieren empezar una guerra online contra los españoles.

Este grupito no nos representa y nos da muy mala imagen internacionalmente.

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sephirox

#27 Pero ¿qué tiene que ver TLO en todo esto?

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MrAw3s0m3

#28 en reddit se ofreció a al menos intentar compensar al estafado con unas horas de coaching. No sé si además intercederia entre el y el club para que además echasen a souleer del club.

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DiSoRDeR

Quién es TLO?

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