Star Citizen #HG

#36694 exacto, el juego a pasado de no poder moverlo nadie a moverlo con una 1070 normalita, y ahora no vengais con que cuando apliquen x tecnología y mierdas de esas porque vamos....

Los cuentos chinos para quien los quiera.

#36695 ah pero ahora se necesita una 1070?

aqui se repitió mil veces que con una rx 480 te sobraba gpu para cuando saliese el juego

Question is "How is the Dynamic Economy shaping up? and is server meshing an essential requirement before Quantas show up?"

Tony and his team have been spending a lot of time this year fleshing out the internal infrastructure of the Dynamic Economy / Universe Simulation (Quantum):

Increasing data flow from the Dedicated Game Servers (DGS) to Quantum. These servers are what you as a client connect to, handle a player’s moment to moment simulation, and are what will be meshed together eventually. They push up to the overall universe simulation the state of all the players they are responsible for, but at a slower tick rate than they simulate (as Quantum doesn’t need to be 30 frames per second as it’s a much bigger picture simulation)

Linking to various game services; these are specific services for things like shops, commodities, resources, encounters (probability volumes, AI spawns), and service beacons that any DGS can query to get the global state of the universe. Services are how Quantum communicates the state of the universe (what you are calling the dynamic economy) to the various game servers. It’s done this was to not overload Quantum, each service caches and updates the global state of the aspect (say prices of items in shops) it is in charge of from Quantum (which is simulating this in a singular universe view) and then can share that on demand to the various DGS that query it. Doing this allows us to scale the DGS count and not worrying about overloading the singleton that is the Universe Simulation.

Reading state from backend databases like the persistent database (soon to be iCache) to track player state and assets

Improving Quanta (the representation of a group of AI in the Universe Simulation) ability for their traits and proficiencies to drive their actions and occupation.

Improving the Star Map and Player analytics so you can have a full view of the player’s activities (travel, combat, purchases etc.)

Last year’s demo at CitizenCon ( https://youtu.be/_8VFw1F-olQ ) demonstrated the high level simulation approach we are planning to take but a lot of the “plumbing” necessary for a player to feel the effect of a dynamic universe shared by all players (not just solitary 50 player instances) wasn’t in, so the work that has happened since then was a necessary step to link it back to gameplay so people can see the cause and effect that a dynamic universe will bring.

Over the next couple of quarters the team is going to work on further fleshing out Quanta behaviors and variety (tourists, entertainers, blue-collar workers, white collar office workers, etc.) and continue linking the overall simulation to the services to allow it to start to drive things in the game you are playing, including the upcoming dynamic mission system. Fuel and repair costs are likely to be the first instance of pricing driven by the backend simulation (versus a formula in the service which it is now). From there we will slowly start pushing more of the Quantum simulation like encounters (Probability Volumes), commodity and retail goods pricing and stock, resource persistence (no endless random chance to mine Hadinite in the same point) to the services, allowing them to drive gameplay in the various DGS.

Tony’s goal (goal != promise ) is to have elements of the Dynamic Universe start to come online next year, likely towards the back half of the year, where player’s actions can impact both the Dynamic Economy and other players.

As far as Server Meshing being a prerequisite for Quantum, that isn’t the case. The server mesh is the optimization that will allow the universe to be dynamically broken up into individual islands, each of which is controlled by a DGS, allowing us to scale the concurrent player count inside a single unified reality beyond what an individual server could handle. How likely you are to run into pirates at a given location, what missions are being offered where and for how much, the distribution and quantity of valuable ores, and which shops are short on what goods and what they’re willing to pay to procure more is what Quantum, not the DGS simulates. Quantum is responsible for the big picture of the universe. Quantum is not dependent on the server mesh as it’s a level above the server mesh, but Quantum is what allows the server mesh to reflect dynamic state of the Universe. That doesn’t mean that Quantum is a prerequisite for Server Meshing though, it’s just the universe won’t be as dynamic without Quantum driving it. In the same way the iCache is not a prerequisite for Quantum, but when online it will allow more fidelity of object state and tracking in the Quantum simulation.

Also If some of you haven't seen the AMA u/jake-cig did back in April on Quantum it's worth checking out https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/quantum-ama (props to @mollybot-CIG for organizing AMAs for the community, it's something we're trying to do more of to make developer community interaction more focused)

As an aside the runner up u/GongYu 's post on the Chinese and Russian fan driven localization efforts was super impressive. I forwarded it on to our internal translation team; we just hired a localization manager in the UK to start focusing on our localization for Squadron 42 and Star Citizen; we've built our display systems with localization in mind but changing the font to chinese or cyrillic without us explicitly helping is impressive initiative. We are definitely very interested in working on foreign translations with the community, especially on Star Citizen which is a huge on going project. it fits in the spirit of Star Citizen as we couldn't be making this game without all of you, and the lack of movement on the translation side was more to do with lack of dedicated personnel, which we have recently rectified. So expect to see us more engaged on this front as we go forward.

I hope this helped and thanks to everyone's questions.

-Chris

#36692 ¡PREMIO! Has descubierto lo que es una alfa: código roto que funciona como el culo.

Salu2

#36705 Eso no es una alfa. Para nada, además.

Sobre el código roto ya escribí mi opinión, creo que argumentada, hace unos años en #32123 , y creo que ha cambiado poco la cosa desde entonces.

Por cierto, buscando este mensaje, me ha llamado la atención esto que escribí en 2016:

a este paso, el 2020 de Yonix se va a quedar corto.

Y, en efecto, se quedó corto

Vamos, que no me creo ni de broma que en la 3.1 tengamos minería y en la 3.3 tengamos granjas.

Y había gente que pensaba que iba a ser así. Si yo lo sabía, no me creo que Roberts no lo supiera.

#36707

Y había gente que pensaba que iba a ser así. Si yo lo sabía, no me creo que Roberts no lo supiera.

A estas alturas creo que ya esta suficientemente documentado no solo que Roberts se equivoque de medio a medio sino que en muchas de esas ocasiones miente directamente, como el ejemplo que pongo mas arriba sobre el sistema de simulacion economica y de trasfondo confirmado como algo ya existente y dominado en 2015 entre muchas otras mentiras, "Answer the Call 2016", "2017", gusanos de Dune y otras variadas menudencias. No te quiero ni contar la de dinero que la gente ha debido meter (y probablemente tirar a la basura) gracias al hype generado por esas mentiras.

Pero bueno, no pasa nada, en cuanto salga la beta de SQ42, cuyo plazo acaba en teoria en unos dias, seguro que se nos pasa el cabreo.

Cuanto texto vacío. Avances irrisorios, código espagueti,... ¿No se da cuenta que se va a morir y no va a disfrutar el juego de sus sueños a este paso?

El año que viene van a tener que rehacer todo otra vez, además les interesa, porque le seguimos comprando naves. Coño si es que nos presentan cosas que hace 5 años ya nos mostraban hasta en vídeos como novedad, y ves que no sólo no han avanzado, sino que han ido para atrás. Tienen unos huevazos gordos.

Y como la memoria de todos nosotros es corta, dentro de otros años nos lo volverán a mostrar orgullosos en el mismo estado, por su puesto diciendo que lo han tenido que rehacer para acoplarse a X que han implementado.. Incluso las naves van a tener que rehacer de lo rotas de están, no hablo de utilidad (inexistente) sino de usabilidad, incluso estéticamente se están quedando obsoletas, de ahí los reworks. Carrack muy bonita pero a cada parche que la pruebo más agujeros encuentro, y esto con todas las naves.

Desde el primer año estoy diciendo que empezaban por donde no tocaba y me caía mierda por parte de los que encima tienen conocimiento 0 en proyectos. Hoy, tristemente, y como cada año, tengo razón. Y sí, yo soy parte del problema por haberles dado mi dinero a pesar de saber que iba a tener unos años desastrosos, más de los que podía imaginar.

E ya.

Esto es ir de menos a más, lo demás son excusas y palabras técnicas que suenan super bien para vender al cliente (nosotros) lo maravilloso que será el producto. Pero la realidad es uqe la deuda técnica está ahogando el proyecto. Mientras tanto otros estudios haciendo lo que deben hacer.

#36718 Y que complejidad jugable tiene a dia de hoy SC?